diff --git a/examples/rotuer.nix b/examples/rotuer.nix
index 8d88ede3..7e0cbfb7 100644
--- a/examples/rotuer.nix
+++ b/examples/rotuer.nix
@@ -105,7 +105,7 @@ in rec {
       inherit interface;
       ranges = [
         "10.8.0.10,10.8.0.240"
-        "::,constructor:${interface.device},ra-stateless"
+        "::,constructor:$(output ${interface} ifname),ra-stateless"
       ];
       domain = "fake.liminix.org";
     };
@@ -188,7 +188,7 @@ in rec {
     let script = pkgs.callPackage ./acquire-delegated-prefix.nix {  };
     in longrun {
       name = "acquire-lan-prefix";
-      run = "${script} /run/service-state/dhcp6c.wan ${services.int.device}";
+      run = "${script} /run/service-state/dhcp6c.wan $(output ${services.int} ifname)";
       dependencies = [ services.dhcp6 ];
     };
 
diff --git a/modules/bridge/service.nix b/modules/bridge/service.nix
index 0c8fc1ac..28194ae9 100644
--- a/modules/bridge/service.nix
+++ b/modules/bridge/service.nix
@@ -13,14 +13,15 @@ let
     type = "bridge";
   };
   addif = member :
-    oneshot {
-      name = "add-${member.device}-to-br-${primary.device}";
-      up = "${ifwait}/bin/ifwait ${member.device} running && ip link set dev ${member.device} master ${primary.device}";
-      down = "ip link set dev ${member.device} nomaster";
+    let ifname = "$(output ${member} ifname)";
+    in oneshot {
+      name = "add-${member.name}-to-br-${primary.name}";
+      up = "${ifwait}/bin/ifwait ${ifname} running && ip link set dev ${ifname} master $(output ${primary} ifname)";
+      down = "ip link set dev ${ifname} nomaster";
       dependencies = [ primary member ];
     };
 
-in (bundle {
-  name = "bridge-${primary.device}-members";
+in bundle {
+  name = "bridge-${primary.name}-members";
   contents = [ primary ] ++ map addif members;
-}) // { device = primary.device; }
+}
diff --git a/modules/dnsmasq/service.nix b/modules/dnsmasq/service.nix
index c446de2b..02cf4764 100644
--- a/modules/dnsmasq/service.nix
+++ b/modules/dnsmasq/service.nix
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
 , resolvconf
 }:
 let
-  name = "${interface.device}.dnsmasq";
+  name = "${interface.name}.dnsmasq";
   inherit (liminix.services) longrun;
   inherit (lib) concatStringsSep;
 in
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ longrun {
     --user=${user} \
     --domain=${domain} \
     --group=${group} \
-    --interface=${interface.device} \
+    --interface=$(output ${interface} ifname) \
     ${lib.concatStringsSep " " (builtins.map (r: "--dhcp-range=${r}") ranges)} \
     ${lib.concatStringsSep " " (builtins.map (r: "--server=${r}") upstreams)} \
     --keep-in-foreground \
diff --git a/modules/hostapd/service.nix b/modules/hostapd/service.nix
index 6c02dafb..2bd54530 100644
--- a/modules/hostapd/service.nix
+++ b/modules/hostapd/service.nix
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ let
   # we'll add them as top-level attributes and rename params to
   # extraParams
 
-  name = "${interface.device}.hostapd";
+  name = "${interface.name}.hostapd";
   defaults =  {
     driver = "nl80211";
     logger_syslog = "-1";
@@ -35,5 +35,5 @@ let
 in longrun {
   inherit name;
   dependencies = [ interface ];
-  run = "${hostapd}/bin/hostapd -i ${interface.device}  -P /run/${name}.pid -S ${conf}";
+  run = "${hostapd}/bin/hostapd -i $(output ${interface} ifname)  -P /run/${name}.pid -S ${conf}";
 }
diff --git a/modules/ppp/pppoe.nix b/modules/ppp/pppoe.nix
index 9aae9862..848ddba7 100644
--- a/modules/ppp/pppoe.nix
+++ b/modules/ppp/pppoe.nix
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
 { interface, ppp-options }:
 let
   inherit (liminix.services) longrun;
-  name = "${interface.device}.pppoe";
+  name = "${interface.name}.pppoe";
   ip-up = writeAshScript "ip-up" {} ''
     . ${serviceFns} 
     (in_outputs ${name}
@@ -42,7 +42,10 @@ let
 in
 longrun {
   inherit name;
-  run = "${ppp}/bin/pppd pty '${pppoe}/bin/pppoe -I ${interface.device}' ${lib.concatStringsSep " " ppp-options'}" ;
+  run = ''
+    . ${serviceFns} 
+    ${ppp}/bin/pppd pty "${pppoe}/bin/pppoe -I $(output ${interface} ifname)" ${lib.concatStringsSep " " ppp-options'}
+  '';
   notification-fd = 10;
   dependencies = [ interface ];
 }
diff --git a/pkgs/liminix-tools/networking/default.nix b/pkgs/liminix-tools/networking/default.nix
index d5cf68dd..f0349b4b 100644
--- a/pkgs/liminix-tools/networking/default.nix
+++ b/pkgs/liminix-tools/networking/default.nix
@@ -25,18 +25,14 @@ in {
       up = lib.concatStringsSep "\n" ups;
       down = "ip link set down dev ${device}";
       dependencies = dependencies ++ lib.optional (primary != null) primary;
-    } // {
-      inherit device;
     };
   address = interface: { family, dependencies ? [], prefixLength, address } @ args:
     let inherit (builtins) toString;
     in oneshot {
       dependencies = [ interface ] ++ dependencies;
-      name = "${interface.device}.addr.${address}";
-      up = "ip address add ${address}/${toString prefixLength} dev ${interface.device} ";
-      down = "ip address del ${address}/${toString prefixLength} dev ${interface.device} ";
-    } // {
-      inherit (interface) device;
+      name = "${interface.name}.addr.${address}";
+      up = "ip address add ${address}/${toString prefixLength} dev $(output ${interface} ifname)";
+      down = "ip address del ${address}/${toString prefixLength} dev $(output ${interface} ifname)";
     };
   route = { name, target, via, dependencies, dev ? null }:
     let with_dev = if dev != null then "dev ${dev}" else "";